WHITE TRASH was one of the
best surprise in the beginnning of the 90s. Two great
albums (with two great producers- George Drakoulias &
Daniel Rey), two amazing guitar players, an excellent songwriter,
great artworks
but the band doesnt know the success
and is reported missing. Maybe the band was ahead of ones
time ! Today, Dave Alvin talks about the past, the present
and the future
and the future seems to be great !
*Hi Dave,
after the end of WHITE TRASH what did you do? Can you tell
us what you did these last years?
I got into making experimental films (http://feroxfilms.com/)
and it is something I really enjoy doing. I received a grant
to study at the San Francisco Art Institute and I was fortunate
enough to work with some legendary avant garde film makers
like George Kuchar, Ernie Gehr and Craig Baldwin. I
owe those guys a lot.
*Let us return a little to the past,
I'd like to know your musical course before WHITE TRASH
? How did you arrive in the world of the music?
I found out that beautiful women will sleep with you if
sing to them. I also realized that I could drink for free
if I was in a band.
*How was WHITE TRASH formed?
Aaron, Ethan and I all lived in the same neighborhood and
we enjoyed the same kind of music, "Heavy Metal Music"!
So, we started jamming together. We met Mike and the horn
players while attending Francis Lewis High School and that's
how we all got together.
*Which were the influences of the
band at the time of its formation?
Motley Crue, Aerosmith, Jimi Hendrix, The Beatles &
The Blues Brothers
*From where does the name
of the band come from? Why this name ?
People used to call us that to try and put us down. So,
we took that insulting term & wore it as a badge of
honor. It was our way of saying 'Fuck you!" to our
detractors. Now I legally own the name, so if
someone calls us that now I am flattered that they actually
know who we are.
*Between
the two albums, the line up was totally different. Why ?
Well, we all had different ideas about what we wanted to
do next after we finished our tour. We were all arguing
with each other all the time and it just wasn't going to
work any more, so the other guys left to do other projects
and I did one more album with new members Craig LeBlang,
Eric Brodin & Dave Barckow as their replacements.
*Dave, you
were the principal writer, even the sole one on most songs.
However, you are not credited as an instrumentalist (except
harmonica). On which instrument do compose you?
I play guitar. I am pretty good, but I don't like singing
and playing at the same time on stage. I learned everything
I know from Ethan and Craig, 2 amazing guitar players that
I was lucky enough to have played with in White Trash.
*Was it easy
to impose your ideas to others musicians ? Did you have
difficulty finding musicians as motivated as you?
All the guys in White Trash were great to play with, but
I have never been able to find people as good as them in
recent years. That's the whole problem, it is very hard
to find the right people to play with.
A band is like a marriage. You must choose your partner
very carefully or it can turn into a nightmare.
*Can you
describe to us the music scene at that time?
The heavy metal scene of the late 80's - early 90's was
a magical thing. It was like being a viking. I started hanging
out when I was like 13 years old in clubs and by the time
I was 15 I was hanging out with 20 year old women who looked
like playboy playmates. It's hard for people today to understand
what an amazing scene that really was. It was like being
at an orgy in ancient Rome.
* The group
fit in with the hard rock US scene of this era when the
band published its 1st album?
We were very lucky. The timing & marketing was just
right for our first album. MTV really helped us out by playing
the video for "Apple Pie", too.
*How did
the band manage to obtain a collaboration with Jack Davis,
famous illustrator of comics, on the delirious cover of
the first album ?
We just called him and he said yes. We were very happy that
he was into it. We wanted the album cover to look like the
movie poster for "Animal House". He is truly a
gifted artist.
*How do you analyze, with the passing,
the lack of success of White Trash at one time when other
bands amalgamating hard rock and funk knew a better fate
(Extreme, Red hot Chili Peppers, Faith No More...);According
to you, why was White Trash just a success of regard ?
That was totally our own fault. We didn't stick together
like a good family should. And that's what we were, a big
crazy family. United we stand, divided we fall. We split
up and we fell .
*You were signed on a big major (big
record company), how were your relations?
They always treated us fairly, but by the time that the
second album came out the whole music industry had changed
dramatically. We wound up being lumped in with all the other
old school metal bands and that was the end of that.
*The second
album of the band wants to be different from the first,
with riffs more catchy and who sounded more fundamentally
Hard Rock. Was this deliberate on behalf of the band to
take this direction?
Oh yeah, definitely. I didn't want to just make a "sequel"
to the first album, so I decided to take it in another direction
that was better suited to the new musicians. It's sort of
like what Robert Fripp has done with King Crimson over the
years.
*Why was the adventure stopped after
2 albums ?
Honestly, I was heart broken, disillusioned and depressed
after the second album failed. I really loved that album
and when it didn't succeed I kind of fell apart.
*With the
passing, what do you think about the two albums of WHITE
TRASH? Which album do you prefer (on the level of the songs
but also of the production) ?
I can't choose. It's like asking a parent which of their
children they like best. I love them both.
*Can one
hope to see one day a great re-issue of your cds with bonus
tracks or video? Are there unreleased tracks or live tracks
of White Trash that one can hope to see coming out one day?
I would love that,
but that decision is up to Elektra Records, not me.
I would definitely do it if they wanted to do it though.
*What became of the other musicians? Are you always in contact
with them?
I see most of the guys all the time. They are all still
playing music. I love them like brothers.
*In june
2007 there was a gig of WHITE TRASH. Can you tell us why
? with who ? where ? which songs ? we want to know everything
about this concert you played !!!!
Well, I hadn't sung in about 10 years and I guess that I
wanted to find out if I could still do it. Also, I missed
playing with those guys, so I said "Yeah, why not?".
We played songs from both albums, plus a couple of songs
that weren't on either of our first 2 albums. It went really
well. I am glad that we did it.
*There are
other gigs in the future ?
We are playing Don Hill's in NYC on August 30th. It is going
to be a great show!
*Is there a chance one day to see/hear
an album with new songs, or a solo album?
Yes, I am trying to make something happen. There is a lot
more music coming from the world of White Trash very soon.
That's all I can say right now.
*Are there
possibilities of getting recordings on which you would have
worked, or had you moved away from the world of the music?
I did some film scoring for a bunch of independent films
over the past few years, but I don't believe that any of
that is available right now. I also did the theme music
for John Stewart's (The Daily Show) first 2 talk shows.
Aaron has a band called Butterbrain and they have an CD
out. Chris Arbisi produces music also.
*What was the best moment in WHITE
TRASH ? And the worst ?
The best and worst moment both happened at the same time.
It was the last show that I played with the original band
back in like 1992. It was the best show we ever did! It
was an outdoor concert in front of a monster crowd and it
was total chaos. There are a few bootleg videos of the show
out there somewhere if anyone wants to see for themselves.
It was also the worst moment because essentially it was
all down hill for us from there as a band.
*Out of all the bands you ever toured
with, which ones were the coolest to work with, and which
ones were the worst ?
The worst was when we opened for Dweezil Zappa. He treated
us very poorly. I don't know what that was all about. Maybe
he was just having a bad day, but I got really pissed off.
The best band we ever played with was "Collision".
We played lots of shows with those guys and they were always
totally fucking amazing. They were the real deal, for sure!
*What do
you think of the musical evolution since the Eighties?
There is always good and bad music out there to listen to.
I really like a lot of new stuff, especially Liars. Buy
their albums!
*What do you think of the musical
scene at the present time?
What music scene? Seriously, I don't know what it is like
over there in France, but here in America there is no music
scene. That is something that really needs to change, FAST!
*What do you think of the Internet,
the remote loadings, the mp3's...?
I think it is all great. It gives the independents a chance
to get their music out there, even if they don't have a
big record company backing them. Long Live the New Flesh!
*How do you see the future of musical industry?
I really don't know what will happen, but there will always
be great music out there to listen to and that is all that
really matters in the end.
Now a few quick hits:
- First concert you ever saw ?
Iron Maiden at the Nassau Coliseum
-Last concert
you saw ?
Suicide at the South Street Seaport
-Worst concert
you ever saw ?
Lindsey Lohan once sang for me privately in my home. She
was so terrible that my neighbors started complaining and
so I had to ask her to leave. True story.
-Best concert
you ever saw ?
Bootsy Collins at S.O.B.'s
-First album
you buy ?
The Very Best of Richard Pryor
-Last album
you buy ?
Von Sudenfeld "Tromatic Reflexxions"
-The most
embarrassing album in your collection ?
Liberacci's Greatest Hits
-What are
your top 5 all time songs ?
"The Beautiful Ones" - Prince
"Story of an Artist" - Daniel Johnston
"Sunday Morning Coming Down" - Johnny Cash/Kris
Kristofferson
"Stand by Your Man" - Tammy Wynette
"Since I've been Loving You" - Led Zeppelin
-And your
top 5 albums ?
Prince "The Black Album"
Jimi Hendrix "Axis: Bold as Love"
Velvet Underground & Nico "Andy Warhol"
Black Sabbath "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath"
James Brown "The Motherlode"
-What is
your dream band ?
My dream band would be called Bunny Rabbit:
Bjork - Lead Vocals
Vincent Gallo- Vocals/Guitar/Keyboards/Bass
Prince - Vocals/Guitar/Keyboards/Bass
Bill Bruford- Drums/Percussion
-The one
thing Dave is best at is ?
Drinking
-The one
thing Dave is worst is ?
Waking up
-Dave 's
guilty pleasure is ?
Dirty, kinky sex with multiple partners (I'm Catholic)
*Little question
concerning France, what in this country inspires you? And
do you know French bands or singers?
The most inspiring thing about France for me is that it
is the birth place of the Surrealist movement. That and
the French New Wave of course. And all of your beautiful
woman. Unfortunately I am not familiar with the French music
scene, but I would love it if you could suggest some good
french music for me to listen to.
*And about
french cinema, french actors/actresses ?
Jean Luc Godard is really amazing to me. "Weekend"
is such a magnificent film. As far as actors, I think Jean
Pierre Leaud is fantastic and Catherine Deneuve just keeps
on getting better and
better.
*So you're
a fan of cinema. What's your favorites realisators and what
do you think about cinema industry today ? Don't you think
money is too important and creation less present ?
Wow, there are so many... In the U.S. - David Lynch &
Harmony Korrine, in Asia- Takashi Miike & Tsai Ming
Liang, Italy- Lina Wertmuller & Pier Paolo Passolini,
Mexico- Carlos Reygadas & Alejandro Jodoworsky, Spain-
Luis Bunuel, Germany- Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Canada -
David Cronenberg... I am leaving out so many great directors.
There are always great films
being made. You don't need a lot of money to make a great
film. The solution is for audiences to stop paying attention
to all the advertisements for big budget nonsense. Dig a
little deeper and you will find gold.
* Do you
still have these splendid white shoes which you proudly
raise on the cover of the second album?
No, those weren't mine, but i love those shoes! My whole
wardrobe for that album was based on the clothes that Warren
Oates wore in the Sam Peckinpah film "Bring Me the
Head of Alfredo Garcia".
*Don't you think these shoes were
perfect for the Duke from The Big Lebowski ?
Ha ha, yes! Absolutely perfect. That's another great movie.
*Thanks a lot Dave for your patience,
sorry for my poor english and if you want to tell me something
it's the moment.
I just want to thank all of the wonderful people who have
supported my band, my strange films and my music over all
of these years. I owe you all my life. PEACE!